Edited interview with Peter Levesque (PL), nephew of Joe Adams. Interview conducted by Joe Manning (JM) on
November 9, 2009.
JM:
How old are you?
PL: 64.
JM: How are you related
to Joe exactly?
PL: He married
my father's sister, Lillian Levesque.
JM:
Did you know Joe's parents?
PL:
No.
JM: How close a relationship
did you have with your Uncle Joe?
PL:
Pretty close. When I was growing up, I used to be at their home a lot. It was one of those duplexes on Front Street. His parents
owned the house and lived at 105. He grew up there. Then he moved to 107 after he got married. When his parents passed, he
remodeled 105 and moved in there. There was the big flood, and it almost washed the house away. The only thing that held the
house up was a large cable that someone brought over and tied around the house, and then he tied the other end to a maple
tree in the back. The rear part of the foundation stayed, but everything else under the house was wiped out. They had to put
new foundations under all of those houses.
JM:
An interesting feature of those houses is the tiny rooms on either end of the each house.
PL: Those were the kitchens.
JM: What did he do for a living?
PL: He worked in the mills, mostly Windsor Print (Windsor Print
Works, just west of the Eclipse Mill). He ended up being a foreman. He worked there pretty much until he retired, when he
was about 68 or 69 years old. Then he went back to work part time, at the Eclipse Mill. He worked on the second shift for
a while. Then he did odd jobs here and there. He didn't have to travel far. From his house, he could see the Eclipse Mill
and Windsor Print. He walked to work, but he had a car.
JM: Did his wife Lillian work, too?
PL: Yes, she worked in accounting at Sprague Electric.
JM: How many children did they have?
PL: None.
JM:
What do you think about the fact that he was only 10 years old when he was photographed as a worker at the mill?
PL: I found it almost unbelievable.
Until you sent me the photo, I never knew it. He never mentioned it. He was 10, but he looked older. He definitely looked
like my Uncle Joe.
JM: He
was taller than the two kids next to him, and they were older.
PL: But he wasn't a tall guy when he grew up. His wife was a little taller than he was.
JM: What was he like?
PL: He was an easygoing guy, a straight
shooter. He loved baseball, and he loved the Yankees. He told me he played a little baseball himself on the local teams. He
talked about using homemade gloves and leather balls. We went over to the Hall of Fame in Cooperstown once, and they had one
of those leather balls that he was talking about.
He always had a radio in his ear, listening to the baseball games. I'll never forget when they came out with transistor
radios. He got one, and he would sit in his recliner and listen. Then later on, when the games were televised, that was his
pastime. I can still hear him. If the Yankees screwed up, he'd mumble under his breath, ‘Those stupid...should've been
a double play,' and stuff like that. He'd be in his recliner with his eyes closed, and I could swear he was sound asleep.
But if you asked him the score, he'd tell you.
He
liked to fish. He used to go up to Lake Champlain and fish for wall-eyes (wall-eyed pike). He and my aunt would stay up there
in a cabin for a couple of weeks. He'd drag me along sometimes. It was great. I was young, and they'd spoil the daylights
out of me.
JM: When you went
fishing with him, what did you talk about?
PL:
He was a geography buff. He would tell me about the lake, and about the river (Richelieu River), and how it ran up into Canada,
and how it went down into the Hudson, and the different towns that were along the river. And he would quiz me to see if I
remembered. He didn't have a real formal education, but he was sharp as a whip.
JM: Did he speak French?
PL: Sometimes he would call me names in French. When they didn't want me to hear them, he and my
aunt would talk in French.
JM:
And you'd wonder what they were talking about?
PL:
Sure. I didn't understand it.
JM:
Did he ever try to teach you French?
PL:
No, just geography. He would say, ‘You were born and brought up in the United States, and you don't even know where
Chicago is.' He knew all the names of the presidents and where they came from. He read the newspaper every day from cover
to cover, and did the crossword puzzles. He was an avid cribbage player. If he knew you played cribbage, and you were there,
you would get sucked in. I didn't play it. He also played poker.
He and my aunt were almost like my second parents. We lived up in the country, in Savoy, but I went to St. Joseph's
High School in North Adams, so I spent a lot of time at their house. I would stay overnight three or four times a week. I
was well fed and spoiled. They used to drag me off to the drive-in movie. Those were great times. When I was 16, I bought
a car. I needed some tires for it, so I went down to Jack & Harry's, but they told me I was too young to charge it, so
they put Joe's name on the bill, and he got the bill. He hated that, but he paid it off. He didn't like to owe anybody.
He went to church faithfully. He enjoyed going out and
having a good time. He liked to have a snort or two. He wasn't a big drinker, but he could get a little jolly. He was a well-liked
guy. There wasn't anybody that didn't like Joe.